Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links

by Marian Schembari on August 27, 2010

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I recently stumbled across a Blog-That-Shall-Remain-Nameless that refuses to link out. If they review an event, they won’t link to the event page. Writers don’t get links back to their own blogs. It’s the reader’s job to find relevant information if they want it.

This was something I noticed, but never commented on because I know a lot of Big Sites do the same thing. Over the past few months I’ve been quoted in articles for CNN, ABC, TIME Magazine and MSN Careers. I was featured in Real Simple Magazine and on their website. None of these sites linked back to me.

I’m sorry, but this shit needs to change. In my mind it’s the equivalent of using a Flickr photo or quote without giving credit. Retweeting an article without sending us back to the source. While the articles used my full name, I gave those interviews thinking I’d be properly credited. On the internet that means a link back to your website or blog. Apparently high traffic sites aren’t required to play by the rules.

Fifty percent of the interviewers simply ignored my request for a link; others said they’d ask their editor. None of them actually followed through. I honestly don’t understand – what are you afraid of? Linking to a site that’s not “TIME  approved material”? Well then don’t feature people you don’t want to credit. Worried about SEO? I don’t know a lot about it but I highly doubt CNN is going to lose any juice by linking to my site (that, to be perfectly honest, has a pretty kick ass page ranking). Are they really that worried people are going to leave their site for mine?

However, while annoying as all hell, I was obviously honored just to be mentioned. But then I came across Blog-That-Shall-Remain-Nameless. Not only do they refuse to link out, and aren’t big enough to get away with it, but someone finally commented. I won’t rehash the whole dialogue but it went something like this:

Commenter: This is a great article except for the complete lack of links.

Blog owner: That’s what Google is for.

Ummm…. No.

Not only is that a douchey thing to say, but this highlights their lack of confidence. While I don’t know the blog owner personally, I can only imagine she won’t link out because she doesn’t want people to leave her blog. I call these people Analytics Addicts – being so concerned with  bounce rate that you neglect to provide value to your readers. (See what I did there? I linked out. Also, there’s this nifty thing you can do called “open in new tab.” Means you won’t leave this post when you click it. You’re welcome.)

Why You Seriously Need to Get Over Yourself

One of the first things I tell my clients who have blogs is that they need to start linking out more.  Not obsessively, but reference articles, define a term, offer up further resources. And definitely interlink between your own posts.

I don’t know anything about SEO other than the most basic concepts, but this post isn’t about page ranking or Google results. This is simply about providing value. On top of that though, a reason I always suggest bloggers link out is so that they get on the radar of other blogs.

Most of us have Google Alerts set up for our name and web address. So if anyone links to marianlibrarian.com I’ll get notified. When I get notified the first thing I do is go to the blog. I read your post. I thank you for the shout out. If I like the site I usually bookmark it. We become besties. The end.

The Arguments

I realize linking out takes people away from your site. Like I said, it’s easy to combat this. Still, get over it. If the purpose of your blog is to provide value, generating clients/leads/etc doesn’t mean “talk-about-your-shit-all-the-time.” It means you need to occasionally send people elsewhere. If you love them, let them go and all that

Think of it this way: If you’re at a store and they don’t have what you need, the manager isn’t likely to send you to another store. But how much do you love that sales clerk when they secretly (and without prompting) offer up another store where you might take your business? A lot, that’s how much.

That’s what it means to be a blogger. I’m pretty well-versed in social media. In fact, people pay me lots of money to help them navigate the interwebs. But this doesn’t mean I have all the answers. Sometimes I need to send you guys somewhere else. And hopefully you’ll still like my content, be grateful, and come back.

So without further ado, three interesting articles from around the web on the subject of outbound links:

Just remember guys: Be generous, link out, offer valuable information to your readers, even if it isn’t yours. And above all else, don’t be douchey.

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  • http://www.domesticsluttery.com Siany

    If blogs don’t link out, I don’t read. End of.

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    RIGHT?! It’s just fucking rude.

  • http://www.stephauteri.com Steph Auteri

    HALLELUJAH! I don’t have much to add to this post. You’ve already mentioned adding value/providing a service to your readers. You’ve already mentioned that Google Alerts and pingbacks when you link out could make a linked-to blog notice you, and perhaps start a mutually beneficial relationship. You’ve already mentioned setting the links to open in a new tab, so that readers aren’t forced to leave your site. DUDE. Refusing to link out is just plain rude.

    Links (both internal and outbound) are a sign that you totally get the possibilities for interactivity with web content (I mean, isn’t that the point?), and are also a sign that you’re creating content for the reader’s benefit, and not merely your own.

  • http://twitter.com/JeffreyPia Jeffrey Pia

    I agree wholeheartedly. When I write blog posts, I’m very gratuitous about linking out, not just to my source material, but also to anything remotely related to my topic. I feel by providing external links, I’m adding value for my readers, which hopefully will entice them to read my future posts. I love when I link to an article and show up as a pingback on their post, and actually get traffic from folks who saw my link another site; hopefully the other site gets some traffic from my site in return. I have always considered the blogosphere to be like a community, and I think we should strive to mutually help each other out.

    If the biggest concern is people leaving your site and you want to increase stickiness, why not just make external links open in a new window? Some people may argue, but I think this increases time spent on your site by making it very easy for the reader to come back once they’re done on the other site.

  • http://www.domesticsluttery.com Siany

    Worse than that – I won’t link to you.

  • http://aspiringwriterworld.blogspot.com/ Gabriela Lessa

    That is very odd that news websites won’t link out. I’m a journalist, and linking to the website I’m mentioning comes automatically to me. I’m trained to give credit where credit is due. Why wouldn’t I?
    *By the way, just wrote a post mentioning you. With an outbound link.

  • Melissa Breau

    Okay lady – I’m starting my comment before I finish reading so I don’t forget the stuff I wanna share.

    First – Linking out to sites with good page ranking increases your own page ranking. That’s my understanding of how it works (and I have a pretty good understanding). Google WANTS you to be well connected; it’s how they verify that you’re credible. It’s like handing in a research paper – you credit where you got your info. Online that’s a link-back. Google follows those and if the site that you link to is about the topic of the article it increases the ranking of that article. So yeah, it’s really dumb not to link back to others.

    Second – When you link to another site on a blog EVERY site I’ve ever seen gives you an option in the back end to set your blog up so that when a reader clicks on a link, it automatically opens in a new window or tab.

    Third – It IS fucking rude. It’s like saying – i think you know more about the stuff im interviewing you on than i do but I’m not willing to let readers verify the quote by checking out the spirit of your other content. It’s like including the title of your source that qualifies them to be an expert – who the f*** cares what Joe Smoe thinks about SM – unless Joe is a bonafide sm thug like you marian, in which case we may not want to trust the write on that, we may want to go see joe’s website, check it out, and decide for ourselves if he’s full of bull or really can rock our socks off.

    Awesome post, agree with you 120%.

  • http://www.antoninaphotography.co.uk Antonina

    I don’t get why people won’t link. Just completely beyond me.

    I always always always link to people. What’s more, I’ll try to include some of the keywords they might want to get ranked for, and make it a contextual link. No one ever asks me to do that, I just think it’s nice, and do hope they will return the favour (but of course not everyone understands what the purpose of that, so I’m often the one that doesn’t get a contextual link back).

    And what’s more, having links in your blog post visually breaks up the text and it makes it even easier for the reader to scan it and find the information they need. AND if you provide them with a really valuable link they will actually remember that it was you who provided that, and will have good fuzzy feeling about you.

  • http://aspiringwriterworld.blogspot.com/ Gabriela Lessa

    One question, Marian. Is there a way to set your blog to open links on a new window? Mine doesn’t do that unles you click with the right-hand button and choose to open on a new tab. Is there a way to set it as a default option?

    • http://JeffreyPia.com Jeffrey Pia

      In blogger, go to Design > Edit HTML
      Anywhere between the and tags, add the following line:

      Click Save Template

      Now all of your links will open in a new window.

  • http://www.stephauteri.com Steph Auteri

    Whenever you create a link, it gives you a “target” option. You can choose to either have the link open in the same window, or a new window. If you ignore this field, I believe the default is to have the link open in the same window. I’m not sure if there’s a way to change that default in the CSS…

  • http://aspiringwriterworld.blogspot.com/ Gabriela Lessa

    Thanks!

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Gabriela, I think this *might* possibly be a WordPress thing only. Maybe, not sure. But I had a Blogger account once and couldn’t do it so if you can’t find the “target” option that might be why…

  • Nextinthecity

    Marian,
    i put ur blog in my blog roll. did u get a notification of that? or do i have to directly put link in my post?
    -liz

    • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

      As long as there’s a link, I’ll be notified. That said, I did NOT get notified about the blogroll. Could you send me the link?

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Haha, gotcha. Okay, I see it but I wasn’t notified. Sometimes my Google Alerts fails me and I don’t know why. I SHOULD have gotten a notification for that. Ah well, now I know. Thanks for adding me!!

  • Nextinthecity

    sure!!! i wasnt sure how it worked w blog rolls!!! good luck….. enjoyed reading about ur parents in ur money post on stratejoy this am. i feel ur pain!

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Antonina, you make some really great points – points I hadn’t even considered when writing this! First of all, it’s very nice of you to link with keywords in mind. Not like I know ANYTHING about that, but I still think it’s nice ;-)

    Also, in terms of aesthetics, breaking up text is a great point! Some people need to remember to make their links a different color though. I’ve definitely seen links that are only underlined or bolded and that’s just a bit waste of pretty color!

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    And guess what? I got a Google Alert and commented. See how that works? Teehee…. ;-)

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    The Blog-That-Shall-Remain-Nameless is the first time I had come across something like this. It totally bowled me over. I did, however, know that many news websites and magazines won’t link out and it baffles me. I guess the people that own the print version like to stick to tradition I guess, but it makes the lives of the readers harder – actually makes me batshit insane.

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Amen, sister! News sites and news sites and just because they refuse to link out doesn’t mean they’ll fail. It’s dick of them, but they’ll keep on going. On the other hand, blogs like the one I mentioned will NOT get any bigger by acting this way. They’ll consistently hit this wall because it’s obvious they could give less of a shit about their readers. And that’s not okay.

  • http://janawillworkforbooks.blogspot.com Jana

    Thank you for this. I couldn’t agree more. And count me as another who won’t read a blog that refuses to link out.

  • Janet W

    Great blog Marian! I linked you back to the Book Lovers board — because I know the readers there will be interested in what you have to say. For me, bottom line — if you refer to a person in your blog — especially if he or she is part of a salient point in your discussion, it’s just plain old courtesy to link back — and it helps broaden the discussion for your readers. Of course there are exceptions: if I was blogging on the ghastly folks who just decapitated some gorgeous ancient rose bushes in Golden Gate park, I wouldn’t link back to a blog on how best to destroy vintage roses but that’s why it’s called an exception! http://members7.boardhost.com/bookreviews/msg/1282927079.html

  • Man of la Book

    I have been in IT and web development for many years (which means I worked closely with marketing folks) and it never fails to amaze me that many new websites, no matter how small, refuses to link outside of their own little fiefdom.

    Not only blogs, I’ve even encountered established businesses, such as an on-line restaurant guide, which won’t link to the business they are promoting. The bottom line is to create a product that people want – not shove down people’s throats a product you want them to have.

    It didn’t work for the music industry, it won’t work for book publishers and it certainly has not and will not work for bloggers.

    http://www.ManOfLaBook.com

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Okay, so apparently it’s not just WP. Superstar Jeffrey Pia just sent me this:

    In blogger, go to Design > Edit HTML
    Anywhere between the and tags, add the following line:

    Click Save Template

    Now all of your links will open in a new window.

  • http://aspiringwriterworld.blogspot.com/ Gabriela Lessa

    Thanks a lot! Veru helpful, as usual!

  • http://twitter.com/marianschembari/status/22270489131 Marian Schembari

    {latest post} Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af

  • http://twitter.com/stephauteri/status/22271295822 stephauteri

    Hallelujah! @marianschembari tells bloggers and web mags to get over their issues with outbound links: http://ow.ly/2vJUa

  • http://alyssacmartino.com/blog/ Alyssa

    I think the worst part about this scenario is that social media/marketing/going digital is about making personal connections in a big, big world so it seems more intimate. Why wouldn’t you want to link back to someone? It shows you’re courteous enough to give them the PR they deserve. If you don’t think they deserve it, then don’t feature them to begin with, DUH. This just seems to go against everything these mediums are purposed for! Marketing and social media 101, people.

  • http://twitter.com/melissabreau/status/22271829972 Melissa Breau

    I commented! RT @MarianSchembari: {latest post} Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af

  • http://twitter.com/manoflabook/status/22271989926 Zohar Laor

    RT @MarianSchembari {latest post} Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af – great post #bloggers

  • Anonymous

    Great post. I was thinking as I started reading, “Don’t people know how to create a link to open in a new window,” and then I got to the point in your post where you covered it. It’s that simple. Depending on the goal of your site, you of course don’t want to lose people before a call to action is made (especially in eCommerce), but having links with value that open in a new window is no harm done. In fact, its more value because you are providing more information in a very easy manner. Love that you covered this. Also, link-building IS an important part of SEO, and this includes reciprocal links – sharing is nice. : )

  • Anonymous

    P.S. From the very beginning of my Internet use, I linked and shared — staring in 1996 with my Yahoo! GeoCities page. : ) I mean, here’s a GREAT anaolgy I just thought of. Someone new in town asks you for a great restaurant – you don’t just say, Hops and Barleys. You say, Hops and Barleys. It’s on Main Street in Luzerne… you just get of exit 6 and it’s right there. NOT linking is almost a tease!

  • http://twitter.com/janetnorcal/status/22272809407 Janet Webb

    My personal (not) fave, selective linkback. RT MarianSchembari {latest post} Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    OMG YES! Yes! Yes! Yes! GREAT analogy, Donna. You totally hit the nail on the head.

  • http://ambergarner.com/blog/ Amber Garner

    I’ve never come across a website that outright refuses to link out- that seems crazy! I wouldn’t bother reading a blog that wouldn’t actually share sources they got information from or simple links to events/websites/whatever they are blogging about. I hate when an article mentions an account on Twitter and doesn’t link to it- then I have to go hunting around for it on Google. I don’t understand why any website would be afraid of linking out to other websites. Regardless of whether or not you do, sorry, your page isn’t going to be the only one I visit.

  • http://www.transatlanticsketches.com Kate

    love! seriously. i hate when blogs don’t link to the things they’re talking about. i always open in a new tab, so be calm you bounce rate paranoids. penelope trunk is an awesome out-linker. i read her whole post, opening in new tabs all the way through, and then get all the context i need. and you’re an awesome out-linker too. just sayiiiiinnnnnn.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you! I think linking naturally to other sites is fun and just a courtesy, but when someone is serious about an SEO strategy for their business, there are two types of links to consider – reciprocal links, where two sites link to each other and then single in-bound links. Google looks at both. If a site is well-ranked and links out to a site without a link back, I believe it actually holds more weight to a reputation (because it shows the site was worthy of a link), but when securing links, sometimes it’s easier to agree to link to each other. I worked for an eCommerce company (until two weeks ago), and I think that’s how our SEO team explained it to clients, who were mostly online retailers. In the general blogging community, I’d say we don’t need to study science of it, and just link away and see what happens naturally when people are friendly enough to link.

    Further, I can’t believe the response you got – “That’s what Google’s for.” Really? If I type in the name of the article and or topic that was mentioned in a blog post, will the EXACT result show up on top? Or, will I have to weed through pages of stuff to find the right link? With personalization of search engines, everyone will get somewhat different results. Just link to the article and save your readership a headache, right?!

    Again, nice post.

  • Nextinthecity
  • http://janawillworkforbooks.blogspot.com Jana

    Thank you for this. I couldn’t agree more. And count me as another who won’t read a blog that refuses to link out.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanrancatore/status/22284709155 Ryan Rancatore

    Via @MarianSchembari – Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/amtKCM [RR: Amen to that]

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Penelope Trunk is a linking QUEEN. She’s obviously secure enough in her mad skillz to know that people aren’t just going to leave. They trust that her links are good, but her content is just as good – meaning there’s no way readers are gonna leave mid-post. People need to calm their nipples, that’s all I have to say on the subject.

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Fiefdom – awesome word, dude! I don’t get that restaurant thing – why promote if you’re not going to link?

    Another thing I forgot to mention is that if you don’t link you have no way to track what people are interested in. So with and online restaurant guide, there’s no way their going to make any money promoting places because those places will have no idea if promoting on that site even works. Am I making any sense? Basically, if a restaurant (for example) sees that a site is sending them lots of traffic through links, they’d be more likely to partner with them, pay for advertising, etc etc. By not linking sites are really limiting themselves.

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Melissa, you’re a freaking genius. SEO totally confounds me, but you made this clear and simple. Thank you for all this info on how linking out helps our sites. Based on the research I did, people seemed to be pretty split on whether or not linking out even effects your Google juice, but as long as you do it in a way that’s going to benefit your readers (and not obsessively), I honestly can’t see how it wouldn’t help your site.

    I love your third point. Definitely because you drop an f-bomb, but mostly because you’re spot on. I don’t care who you are – CNN or Joe Sixpack – if you’re going to mention anyone in a post you need to back it up with a link if applicable. You’re so right about verifying someone. Traditional media meant that we’d just have to trust whatever a journalist wrote. They could be quoting Dr. So-and-So who’s in expert in Blah Blah Blah, but we’d never know if that person actually existed, would be? The beauty of the internet is that we now have the ability to back up what a writer says. We can check “facts” or find out more info about a doctor or author or whoever. You can make us spend more time searching on Google or you can do the right thing (and your damn job) and just do the linking for us….

    Phew! Rant. Over.

  • http://www.sweeneysays.com Nicole

    The obsession with bounce rate strikes me as a bit silly for bloggers. I am constantly bringing up the bounce rate on blogs I read regularly because the new post is the one and only thing I have a need to see / one of the few things I haven’t already seen / something along those lines. Does your bounce rate affect what you can get for ads? Is there something I’m missing here?

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    “If you don’t think they deserve it, then don’t feature them to begin with.” Couldn’t say it better myself, Alyssa! Thanks for the awesome comment :)

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    You are an EXCELLENT person, Jeffrey. The best of the best. As for pingbacks, they’re freaking awesome little rewards we sometimes get and I love it when that happens!

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Thanks, Janet! It’s all about courtesy, isn’t it? The blogosphere can be an interesting, sometimes cliquey, competitive place. But it can also (and mostly) be a kick ass community we can all be a part of. If we’re not courteous and practice the simplest internet etiquette than we’re all screwed.

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Exactly!! The Blog-That-Shall-Remain-Nameless is no longer in my Reader ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/alexisgrant/status/22289066096 Alexis Grant

    Bloggers, new outlets… Pay attention. RT @marianschembari: Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af

  • http://marianlibrarian.com Marian Schembari

    Sooo right! That’s the problem, it’s so hard to find the exact article/person/event someone has referenced so they’re making you do a lot of work when it would have taken them 2 seconds. Drives me crazy pants!

  • http://twitter.com/alexisgrant/status/22289066096 Donna Talarico

    RT @alexisgrant: Bloggers, new outlets… Pay attention. RT @marianschembari: Get Over Your Issues With Outbound Links http://bit.ly/aUj8Af

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