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		<title>Internship Series part 1: Why you shouldn&#8217;t take an internship</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the first post in a three-part series where I break down the problems with internships, tell two stories of people who let the system abuse them, and give you the top five tips for getting the most out of your pre-career without doing it for free. Remember when people used to pay you [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><em>This is the first post in a three-part series where I break down the problems with internships, tell two stories of people who let the system abuse them, and give you the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">top five tips</span> for getting the most out of your pre</em><em>-car</em><em>eer without doing it for free.</em></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Remember when people used to pay you to work? Neither do I. It’s this new generation (college to 25ish) that makes it acceptable – desirable – to work long hours, do menial work and like it&#8230; FOR FREE. Does no one else see something wrong with this?<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>The problem with internships:</strong><br />
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<li><span style="color: #000000;">Apparently, you can only gain meaningful work experience if you’re somebody’s bitch.</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">Just because someone is &#8220;willing&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not slave labor.</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">You need to be able to afford it. Meaning that if you don’t come from a good family with a good education and work experience, you have no way to support yourself while you gain said meaningful work experience. Vicious circle and all. <a href="http://business.theatlantic.com/2009/06/are_unpaid_internships_destroying_america.php" target="_blank">An article in The Atlantic</a> says, “Interns are like illegal immigrants. But they&#8217;re worse, because instead of doing the jobs nobody wants to do, college interns do the jobs that everybody their age wants to do, but that only the wealthier can afford.”</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;"> Meaning slave labor is highly competitive.</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #000000;">Oftentimes, YOU pay THEM to be their bitch – in the form of transportation fees, lunch, work attire, etc etc.</span></li>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">I’ve had three internships since high school, all of which I’ve liked and gained some serious experience. One in particular was at <a href="www.royalacademy.org.uk" target="_blank" class="broken_link">The Royal Academy of Arts</a> in London. London college students don’t often have internships as slave labor apparently isn’t as popular on that side of the pond. Meaning my bosses were actually surprised/ecstatic and often confused that we would do their work for free. Meaning they were nice to us, gave us moderately exciting work, let us sit in on meetings and brainstorm with them. They even offered me a paying job at the end of it and ended up being my most positive work experience. That being said, it was in London. I&#8217;m currently in New York.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">However, internships are becoming more popular since I left and the UK is now investigating these internships because because, unlike <em>some countries</em>, they apparently care. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/jul/31/mps-graduate-interns-pay" target="_blank">The Guardian reported</a>, “Under the National Minimum Wage Act, interns who work rather than observe should be paid, but employers have taken advantage of a legally grey area, and the willingness of young people, to pay just expenses, or nothing at all.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Fast forward a few years to just after my college graduation, when I was looking for work in publishing. A lot of people told me I should consider an internship since it was obviously pretty difficult to break into the big houses. That way I could “gain experience” and “make connections” while the companies hurt by the economy can get the job done without having to pay. Now, I’d like to think I’m pretty smart &#8212; I have a degree from a fancy school and a ton of work experience already, so why the hell should I give up the goods for free? This concept just flies in the face of our established wage regulations. Why have minimum wage at all if we all just work for free? How does that make any sense?</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-571" title="lemmings" src="http://marianlibrarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/lemmings.jpg" alt="lemmings Internship Series part 1: Why you shouldnt take an internship" width="328" height="500" /></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Before you pee yourself, think about it. I know internships are what everyone does, and it <em>is </em>difficult to get a job without at least one under your belt. But by taking one you also prove you can only think inside the cube and have no imagination whatsoever. Instead, prove to employers that you don’t need any hand holding. Prove you can network and gain experience without the big boss at a big company. <strong>Taking the initiative</strong> is that much more impressive than taking an internship with all the other lemmings.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Want to go into finance? Email someone at the <a href="www.fwa.org" target="_blank" class="broken_link">Financial Women’s Association</a> and ask if you can come to a meeting. People like to help out those of us just getting started, so mention that you’re looking for work and want to learn more about the business. I guarantee if you sit down and talk one-on-one with someone you will gain just as much experience (if not more) as going into work and watching other people’s meetings from a distance. Want to keep up with the industry of your choice? That’s what the internet is for.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Seriously, you are so much smarter and creative and BOLD if you <strong>take work into your own hands</strong>. Okay, so the economy blows. What are you going to DO about it?!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><em>Tomorrow: The &#8220;cool factor&#8221; and one intern&#8217;s drama when she let the bosses have it&#8230;</em></span></p>


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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/ad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536?s=32' class='avatar avatar-32 photo avatar-default' height='32' width='32' /><i>Marian Schembari:</i>
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							<span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Just started a 3-part series on internships! Part 1: Why you shouldn&#39;t take an internship http://bit.ly/7Xdjwx</span></span>
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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7bfba24e1a9de1893dd361225e19d061?s=32&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' /><i>Livi:</i>
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							Soo good. Cant wait to read part 2&amp;3. And I agree (I really WANT to agree) with you whole-heartedly but I think it so much depends on the field you are trying to get into. 

Take art - I know so many people who have studied art history at this point ... and Im one of the few, VERY few, who is doing something art related at the moment...because I took on an unpaid internship...at the other end of the world (Australia). I know Im incredible blessed that I was able to take on that opportunity (aka, have someone pay my bills) but every single person Ive met at "my" museum at this point got their first paying job after interning... I now have a part-time paying job...which I got after a month of free interning...its not a full-time job but I can see that in my future now. Without the internship it wouldve been very bleak (trust me, Ive been networking with every single person I know in the artworld...some high-up people...who couldnt help me). And Ive learned SO much at my internship. 

Sorry this is so long. People at home (aka Switzerland) are appalled to learn I took on a 6(!) months unpaid internship ..which has thankfully turned into a part-time paying job...and again, I know Im super lucky to be able to do this, but it seems some industries its just one of the only ways to ensure youre gonna get a job in a field you love. 

Although I do wish Id had the patience to try your suggestions!!
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							<span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@AmandaJagdeo I know what you mean. Kind of a lose-lose to be perfectly honest... My post on why internships suck: http://bit.ly/7Xdjwx</span></span>
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						  <li><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/5b96f88a4c298f4d39307bcc94150401?s=32&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' /><i>Aurora:</i>
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							OMG, yes. I wonder every day how internships are legal.
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							<span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Interesting post on why you SHOULDN&#39;T take internships. I agree with some parts, but still think it&#39;s good experience. http://bit.ly/6hq2sJ</span></span>
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		<title>Interview with Writer and Editor Sian Meades</title>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">I&#8217;ve wrangled the lovely writer Sian Meades, all the way from Londontown, to give me the scoop on her sweet job, even sweeter site, and equally delicious new projects (I&#8217;m hungry, what do you want?). Take a look:<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Tell me a little about what you do.</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">I&#8217;m a freelance writer and web editor. I write for everyone from AOL to Lastminute.com and I also run a website called <a href="http://www.domesticsluttery.com/" target="_blank">Domestic Sluttery</a>. It&#8217;s about interiors and style and is dubbed &#8220;the home and lifestyle for women who have better things to do&#8221;. I&#8217;m lucky that I get to write about fun things, but there&#8217;s also something cool about knowing someone has bought something you&#8217;ve featured and it&#8217;s made them happy. I&#8217;m pretty obsessed with design. Constantly. I&#8217;m such a magpie. I think that&#8217;s spilling over into my <a href="http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=7005938" target="_blank">jewellery design </a>and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sianysianysiany/" target="_blank">photography</a> &#8211; something I&#8217;ve only just started learning about.</span></p>
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>What made you want to be a writer?</strong><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">I&#8217;ve always wanted to write. Since I could pick up a book. It was Terry Nation&#8217;s book Rebecca&#8217;s World that started it when I was a kid (<a href="http://www.sianyland.com/2009/10/my-favourite-books-in-whole-world.html" target="_blank">I coincidentally blogged about that last week</a>). I&#8217;m working on the third draft of my novel at the moment which is really exciting. That said, I&#8217;m freelance by accident &#8211; I took a chance and quit my job on a whim, no one would hire me in a full-time role because I wasn&#8217;t experienced enough. That was about two years ago. I wouldn&#8217;t change a thing now.</span></div>
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<strong><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-366" title="sianytwestival" src="http://marianlibrarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sianytwestival1-210x300.jpg" alt="sianytwestival1 210x300 Interview with Writer and Editor Sian Meades" width="147" height="210" />How did you come up with the idea for Domestic Sluttery?</strong><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">That was completely by accident. I set up a site called Cocktails &amp; Cake, which I guess was an early incarnation of DS even if I didn&#8217;t realize it at the time. I wasn&#8217;t very experienced then and I think DS came at the right time &#8211; there&#8217;s an awful lot of cooking sites, and some fab design blogs, but none that mix the two. I think the recession has actually been good for us &#8211; people get so excited when they buy something we feature. We only blog about things that we think are special. But it&#8217;s not just me behind the site &#8211; there&#8217;s a large team of girls who make it brilliant. Without them it would just be me cooing over plates.</span></div>
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<strong>Explain a little about what the editorial process is like for an online publication.</strong><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">It&#8217;s busy. Sure it&#8217;s fun, but there are nights when I work until 2am without even thinking about it. I spend at least 4 hours of my freelance day on the site. We publish about 6 posts a day, and there are ten of us working on the site. But it&#8217;s the behind the scenes stuff that takes the most time &#8211; organizing images, competitions and discounts. Talking to PRs, trying to get invites to events (which is much harder for a blog, believe me). But, there are some great perks too &#8211; having an instant reaction to a designer you love is my favorite thing. When I love something, I cross my fingers when I hit publish and usually, they&#8217;re the posts that get comments right away. It&#8217;s so much fun when that happens.</span></div>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Online writing is quicker. Faster, punchier. But people mistake being laid-back for being lazy. We work hard to make sure that doesn&#8217;t happen. Just because we&#8217;re friendly and engaging on the site, that doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t take it seriously. It&#8217;s a fine balance.</span></p>
<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>How <em>do </em>you balance the freelance life with your “regular” life? Do they often blend? Is that good or bad?</strong><br />
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<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">I&#8217;m so lucky that I enjoy my job, but I&#8217;m not very good at balancing. At all, actually. I&#8217;m getting better, but if something needs doing, I&#8217;ll do it and then go out. But for the time being, the site is coming first. That said, it&#8217;s nice to put the laptop down, watch a film and ignore my emails. I don&#8217;t get to do it very often, but it&#8217;s great when I do. </span></div>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Any upcoming projects?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Personally? Hopefully I&#8217;ll have my novel finished by Christmas (so probably March) and I&#8217;ve just started a new diary project &#8211; I&#8217;m sending postcard to myself. It sounds strange (<a href="http://www.sianyland.com/2009/10/my-new-diary-project.html" target="_blank">more here</a>) but it&#8217;s the first writing project I&#8217;ve done just for me in a long time. I start this weekend and I&#8217;m really excited.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Most of the projects for DS I can&#8217;t talk about yet but they&#8217;re really exciting. There&#8217;s always something new coming up in online publishing. Most of the silly ideas I have I jump on straight away. I&#8217;m also working on a brand new website that&#8217;s set to launch next year. It&#8217;s totally separate from Domestic Sluttery so it&#8217;s going to be great to work on something new. I haven&#8217;t worked out yet how I&#8217;m going to juggle the two.<br />
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Advice for aspiring writers?</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Write. Blog. Write some more. Blogging gives you an outlet to write every day. Even if you don&#8217;t want to write online, having a blog let&#8217;s you discover what you enjoy writing about. It doesn&#8217;t matter what you&#8217;re writing about, as long as you&#8217;re write regularly. You&#8217;ll find your niche. And it&#8217;ll probably be something you never saw coming.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;"><em>Thanks Sian! Not entirely sure if I&#8217;ve linked to her enough, but <a href="http://www.domesticsluttery.com/" target="_blank">here it is again</a>. And just to promote her a bit more, Sian is one of the most self sufficient, creative, brave, brilliant women I know. Really. We should all do ourselves a favor and take a page out of her book :)</em></span></p>


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